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Dorsey Decision Lens Prognostication


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#1 kccrow

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:02 PM

Here's my guess at what Dorsey will do in the draft or in close approximation. I've been leaving you guys without much content this year. 

 

Feel free to add yours.

 

 

Round 1, Selection 27 | T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin
 
Watt is a great prospect from a measurement perspective with good body length, good arm length, big hands, insane short area quickness, and great lower body explosion. Once healthy (and those knee injuries will need to be carefully vetted), Watt exploded onto the scene in his first year as a starter, showing the explosive traits his older brother J.J. once did in Madison. Watt is sure to pique John Dorsey's interest with his numbers, his production, and his lineage. With Dorsey always forward looking a year when it comes to his 1st round picks, Watt makes a ton of sense with Dee Ford coming up on a pay day.
 
Round 2, Selection 59 | Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
 
With all of the talent at DB in this draft, some are sure to fall to value selections on day 2. Wilson didn't put up the kind of eye-popping numbers some of his peers did in the underwear Olympics, so he could be one of those to fall. Wilson is a big, thick corner with solid overall measurements and good short-area quickness to stick with receivers on their initial cut. He's solid in press and tight man, which bodes well for Sutton's defensive scheme. Wilson didn't run much slower than Marcus Peters and is a similarly confident player with a short memory, but is equally susceptible to deep speed.
 
Round 3, Selection 91 | Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami
 
Kaaya is a solid-sized QB with an adequate NFL arm. He's shown the ability to fit the ball into NFL windows, throwing to all levels with good touch. Threw alot of WCO type of throws in Miami's pro-style offense, with slants, digs, and quick outs. Has had to make multiple reads from pro offense, which puts him a bit ahead of the learning curve. Very good mechanics. Very mature and smart. Has shown the ability to quickly learn an offense, having had 3 different schemes in as many years. Inconsistent under pressure, losing accuracy and making poor decisions. Athletic enough to buy time, but won't make a living doing it. Does not throw very well on the move.
 
Round 3, Selection 104 | Duke Riley, ILB, LSU
 
Dorsey has put quite a few undersized inside linebackers on the roster during his tenure here, so I could see it happening again. Riley is one of the new-age "money" linebackers coming into the league. Like Atlanta's Deion Jones, drafted out of LSU last year, Riley is an ultra-quick linebacker with good speed that will fire up through gaps to make plays and is solid in coverage. Riley will never be a take on linebacker, but he gets off blocks pretty well to make plays.
 
Round 4, Selection 132 | George Kittle, TE, Iowa
 
The Chiefs have been actively shopping the TE market and did sign free agent Gavin Escobar. One thing is certain, there is quite a bit of bad after starter Travis Kelce. One area the Chiefs could use a ton of help is with a #2 TE that can not only catch the football when it's thrown to him, but with blocking. Kittle is one of the better blocking TEs in this class and comes from a school known for producing tough-nosed players at the position. Dorsey is also sure to like this kid's underwear numbers, having run a 4.52 with a 35" vertical and 11' broad jump.
 
Round 5, Selection 170 | Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee
 
The Chiefs have been spending late rounders on WRs often and I look for them to likely do so again given that none of the previous picks have really stepped up. Malone is in a very similar mould to current Chiefs' receiver Chris Conley. Malone has great hands, good concentration, catches in traffic, runs decent routes, and has solid deep speed.
 
Round 5, Selection 180 | Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP
 
Don't get me wrong, this is a kid I really love, but I can see Dorsey and Reid liking him a bunch too. Jones really has that LeSean McCoy type of talent sure to interest Andy Reid. Jones runs well at all levels and to the inside and outside. He's a great receiver and he can block fairly well. I'm really surpised this kid isn't getting alot more love in the media. If he falls this late, he's going to be a steal in my opinion. Given the Chiefs have shown interest in him, I'm putting him in here because he just fits what Reid loves in a RB.
 
Round 6, Selection 216 | Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, USC
 
Tu'ikolovatu is a portly built nose type with solid athleticism, solid arm length, and big strong hands. He's very similar to newly signed NT, Bennie Logan. Dorsey should be intrigured by Tu'kolovatu's run stopping ability and size, as well as his overall athleticism to play the nose. Like Logan, he looks to be a guy that is more of a 2-down run stopper but won't offer much on 3rd down and long. The Chiefs would be well served to fill the position with a cheaper option going forward.
 
Round 6, Selection 218 | Craig Winston, DT, Richmond
 
Dorsey always seems to take a flier on a small-school player with upside, and given future need at the 3-tech, I'm going with Winston. I'll post my report on Winston. Stout with a thick bubble. Shows good burst off the snap with a strong initial punch. Splits double-teams well with a nice arm over. Uses hands extremely well. Shows the ability to one-arm and keep his frame clean. Disruptive. Outstanding closing burst to the ball carrier. Scrapes down the line well and makes plays outside of his zone. Nasty, hittting with purpose when he gets a clean release. Experience as a 3-4 DE. One of the most productive defensive lineman in the FCS. 3rd team All-American. Hard worker that never misses a training day and was a team captain.
 
Round 7, Selection 245 | Cole Croston, OT, Iowa
 
Throughout Dorsey's tenure "lacks functional power" has become a normal term when looking at offensive lineman he's drafted. "Sound technician" has also become a staple. You could add in, "late round stab in the dark" as well. Croston seems to fit most of that terminology as he's pretty sound, especially coming out of Iowa, but he really lacks the sand in his pants and overall functional strength to be a contributor early on. Stashing a guy like Croston on the PS might be a solid move if you have confidence you can develop his strength. Reminds me alot of Parker Ehinger.

 

 


#2 Semo

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:12 PM

I like Watt, Wilson and Jones. Meh on the rest.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:19 PM

Good looking out Crow. Tabor or Wilson? Which Florida CB would suit the Chiefs better.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:23 PM

I don't go deep enough knowledge wise in this draft to get to the third day but I like the first 2 picks.

I think in the first it's qb, pass rusher or cb. In my top 2 for these positions for KC (not overall just who i think fits us and might be available) I like Mahomes over Watson, Harris over Watt, and pick your favorite press corner. I dont have a real sense of where the corners will go.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:27 PM

I like Charles Harris too. If i'm going strictly OLB i'd take him. 



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:28 PM

Safeties are deep too. I like Budda Baker out of Washington. Safety isn't a glaring need , but he won't be there at 59.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:34 PM

Good looking out Crow. Tabor or Wilson? Which Florida CB would suit the Chiefs better.

 

I don't know if Tabor plays CB in the league. He's slow as fuck. Limited to a Cover only defense on the outside, if at all. Probably has to move to safety. Wilson by a mile.

 

 

I'll post my mock of more what I want later on. I personally don't think KC should take a CB, but given the number of them KC has looked at thusfar, I expect it.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:35 PM

As much of a MU homer that I am, I don't think Charles Harris is the best option for KC. I also can't shake the feeling that TJ Watt might be better at ILB.

Tim Williams fits in really well with what this Defense does.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:36 PM

I like Charles Harris too. If i'm going strictly OLB i'd take him.


I heard somebody say he's dee ford. I disagree. Ford is super stiff where Harris is very fluid and showed it at the combine and his pro day. He is also a high motor guy. Not an athletic superfreak but very athletic. Will take him a while to get coached up but we can say the same for every college end.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:38 PM

As much of a MU homer that I am, I don't think Charles Harris is the best option for KC. I also can't shake the feeling that TJ Watt might be better at ILB.

Tim Williams fits in really well with what this Defense does.

I disagree. Williams is a one trick pony. Bad in space and bad against the run. He couldn't absorb the bama playbook so how's he going to do with ours. Strictly a 3rd down specialist for at least several years. Probably be pretty damn good at that I don't think we want to go down that road again.

You might be right on watt.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:41 PM

Watt does concern me. I like his play but 1 year at that level concerns me. I also worry I am overrating him because of his brother.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:42 PM

I like Bucky Hodges at TE.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:49 PM

I like Bucky Hodges at TE.

 

Probably going top 40 picks. I can't see spending that on a #2 TE.



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 12:08 AM

I disagree. Williams is a one trick pony. Bad in space and bad against the run. He couldn't absorb the bama playbook so how's he going to do with ours. Strictly a 3rd down specialist for at least several years. Probably be pretty damn good at that I don't think we want to go down that road again.
You might be right on watt.

He's an excellent nickel rusher, which holds a lot of value on this squad. Good technique and strong motor.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 12:22 AM

He's an excellent nickel rusher, which holds a lot of value on this squad. Good technique and strong motor.

 

He's also a headcase. How many of those are you willing to take on? I'd rather have Mixon than Williams and that's saying a fuck ton coming out of my mouth. 



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 12:32 AM

He's also a headcase. How many of those are you willing to take on? I'd rather have Mixon than Williams and that's saying a fuck ton coming out of my mouth.

Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that. Andy Reid will keep taking them on though.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 01:03 AM

He's an excellent nickel rusher, which holds a lot of value on this squad. Good technique and strong motor.


Agreed. But I question his football intelligence and ability to eventually take over as a starter. I can find a nickel rusher on day 3. First 2 days I need to pick up starters.

Come to think of it, I actually do question his ability to play in our nickel. We are in nickel more than any other defensive set so he will have to be able to play the run and drop in space.

Maybe a dime rusher but that's not that often he sees the field. Gotta get more than that in round 2.

Maybe I'm wrong and he can pick that stuff up but he hasn't so far and he's been playing in a sophisticated college defense.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 01:04 AM

He's also a headcase. How many of those are you willing to take on? I'd rather have Mixon than Williams and that's saying a fuck ton coming out of my mouth.


Yikes.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 03:10 AM

Agreed. But I question his football intelligence and ability to eventually take over as a starter. I can find a nickel rusher on day 3. First 2 days I need to pick up starters.
Come to think of it, I actually do question his ability to play in our nickel. We are in nickel more than any other defensive set so he will have to be able to play the run and drop in space.
Maybe a dime rusher but that's not that often he sees the field. Gotta get more than that in round 2.
Maybe I'm wrong and he can pick that stuff up but he hasn't so far and he's been playing in a sophisticated college defense.


Not much in college is very sophisticated anymore. I'm not too concerned about an edge rusher being pants on head stupid if he's a good player.

Dee Ford is pretty smart and hasn't learned much on the field.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 04:03 AM

Not much in college is very sophisticated anymore. I'm not too concerned about an edge rusher being pants on head stupid if he's a good player.

Dee Ford is pretty smart and hasn't learned much on the field.


Saba actually has a pretty sophisticated defensive system... for college.




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