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KCCrow's 2017 "What I Want" Mock


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#1 kccrow

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 12:07 PM

Here it is... what I want to see in 2017. Enjoy.

Round 1, Selection 22 | Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (6'2" 225)

Trade Round 1 (27) and Round 3 (91) to Miami Dolphins for Round 1 (22) to move ahead of New York Giants (23) and Houston Texans (25).

We all know about Mahomes so I'll spare the details and scouting report. I feel like this draft is really a crapshoot as far as the QBs are concerned. I don't feel as though the run will start that early. In my opinion, pundits are making alot to do about nothing when it comes to some teams like the Chargers, Cardinals, and Saints in round 1. I don't think they are necessarily looking at QBs and thinking 7, 11, or 13, rather 2nd round or a trade back up from the 2nd. If you're picking that high, there are usually big fish to fry and a developmental QB behind an established vet might not be priority one. With that said, I think there's going to be a QB the Chiefs like that gets in striking distance, and Miami is a traditional trade partner. This bodes well for KC given that they can leap the Giants and, especially, the Texans. I happen to really like Mahomes and I still feel like he's the #3 QB on teams' lists. I'd be happy with either Trubisky or Watson if one of those fall instead. No matter the situation, I think KC has to make a move to get a guy they want.

Round 2, Selection 59 | Daeshon Hall, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (6'5" 266, 4.76 40-yd, 18 bench, 35" vert)

Hall is a quick-twitch type of player that reminds me a bunch of Chandler Jones, from his size, to his athleticism, to his collegiate production. Hall got into the backfield an awful lot in 2016 but just didn't quite finish with the sack numbers you want. That doesn't mean he didn't make a big impact, because he did. Hall is the type of player I can see KC moulding into what they want on the edge, given he's a tad raw, and the rewards could be great. Hall shows great burst off the snap. He needs to work on functional strength, his hand usage, and his punch, but he has time to develop in KC. You might be drafting a guy on size/weight/speed, but that's exactly what Dorsey did when he took Dee Ford in the 1st. 

Round 3, Selection 104 | Anthony Walker Jr. - ILB - Northwestern (6'1" 238 - 4.65 40-yd, 30.5" vert, 23 bench)

Walker is a quick and fairly fast linebacker with the ability to shoot gaps and make plays in the backfield as well as stick in coverage down the field. Walker lacks slightly in his ability to stack and shed, but he has the ability to knife by would-be blockers to make plays. Walker is a sideline-to-sideline type that can make plays on the perimeter. Criticized by some as having gained too much weight in 2016, he actually was injured to begin the season and finished the last 2/3 of the year on a torrid pace of nearly 10 tackles per game. Walker is a prototypical weakside backer for a 3-4 given his ability to stay on the field for all 3 downs and cover backs and tight ends in either man or zone.

Round 4, Selection 132 | Shaquill Griffin, CB, Central Florida (6'0" 194 - 4.38 40-yd, 38.5" vert, 6.87 3-cone)

Griffin is a long, quick-footed corner with excellent hip movement to mirror receivers and stick in coverage. Aggressive and physical with excellent press ability. Good ball production and timing to break up passes in his zone. Excellent statistics in coverage over past two seasons as a starter. Outstanding in run support, disengaging from receivers to make form tackles in support at the line. Highly underrated corner coming from a smaller school. Drafting Griffin is more about next season. While he would likely replace Acker on the depth chart, he's in a bit similar mould to Phillip Gaines from an athletic standpoint and Gaines is a free agent next year. Not only that, but Mitchell is a free agent as well and the Chiefs may not afford him if he puts up a full season like he played last year.

Round 5, Selection 170 | Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP (5'9" 208 - 4.56 40-yd, 37.5" vert, 6.82 3-cone)

Outstanding back with great balance, speed, quickness, and lower body explosion. Combine numbers back up tape. Underrated runner from small school that put up large numbers and did so against top competition as well. A slashing running back that will makes defenders pay in open space. Effective jump cut and spin move. Active feet and great balance to break tackles and make quick moves to cut on a dime. Outstanding vision and patience. Follows his blocks and finds his cutback lanes. Jones runs well at all levels and to the inside and outside. Outstanding receiver out of the backfield. Can beat linebackers down field and can make catches in stride with soft hands. Takes care of the football. Runs a bit high, opening himself up to some hits and reducing his power inside the tackle box. I agree with Marshall Faulk that this guy is a big sleeper and he's better than a lot of more highly touted backs. This kid is going to be a steal for a team. 

Round 5, Selection 180 | Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, NT, Southern California (6'1" 331 - 5.45 40-yd, 28 bench, 24.5" vert)

Tu'ikolovatu is a portly built nose type with solid athleticism, solid arm length, and big strong hands. He's very similar to newly signed NT, Bennie Logan. Tu'ikolovatu's displays excellent explosion off the snap and a good inital punch. Difficult move off the line of scrimmage and more often forces the action into the backfield with good push. Displays good run stopping ability and enough overall athleticism to play a 2-gap nose . Will likely be a limited to a 2-down role given lack of pass rush ability. The Chiefs signed Bennie Logan on a 1-year deal, so they will likely need to address the nose at some point.

Round 6, Selection 216 | Austin Calitro, ILB, Villanova (6'0" 240 - 4.67 40-yd, 34" vert, 24 bench, 6.96 3-cone)
 

Solidly built inside linebacker with the play strength and demeanor to be a strong side linebacker. Has good play diagnosis skills and puts himself in great position to make plays from down-to-down. Slips around blocks and engages and sheds blocks well. Makes plays in the backfield. A violent and forceful hitter that breaks down well, which is a rare combination these days. Solid coverage, but limited athletically. Limited to SILB role in 3-4 or SOLB role in 4-3. Big motor. Appears to be a film junkie given his instinct and awareness on the field. Team captain. Looks to be a more athletic and a more forceful player than Mauga, but has the skillset to take on the same role. The Chiefs really need someone to push for the strong side role hard as they really don't have an ideal option on the roster.

Round 6, Selection 218 | Quincy Adeboyejo, WR, Ole Miss (6'3" 197 - 4.42 40-yd, 34.5" vert, 6.73 3-cone)

Long and fluid receiver with excellent short area quickness. Gets out of the blocks very well, pressing corners immediately and has solid deep speed. Very good hands and shows the ability to contort to make plays outside of his frame. Makes catches in traffic and in contested situations. Looks the prototype as a slot receiver in the NFL and could be much more with development. Alot of talent at WR at Ole Miss during his tenure, so has a solid shot to be a better pro than collegian. The Chiefs need someone that can threaten a roster spot of either Albert Wilson or De'Anthony Thomas, and Adeboyejo has the type of speed and quickness that could do so. 

Round 7, Selection 245 | Jordan Roos, OG, Purdue (6'4" 302 - 5.22 40-yd, 41 bench, 28.5 vert)

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Tarzan type of guard. Great initial punch with outstanding strength and anchor. Nasty demeanor, always looking to hit someone. Solid movement within his box. Doesn't give up ground easily. Can be caught leaning and using his superior upper body strength, so will need to get better using his lower body to drive defenders. Excellent pass blocker. More of a wall-off run blocker that made huge strides in this area as a Senior.



#2 jetlord

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:14 PM

You certainly covered the team's top five needs in the first five rounds.  There's a real possibility that the Chiefs can get their QB without trading up.  They may be poised to pull the trigger on a trade but as the draft works through the first round, they could see either Mahomes or Watson fall to #27 and sit pat.  Would you prefer trading away a third to get Mahomes over Watson?  Guess that's what scouts and talent evaluators are paid for.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:05 PM

If they want Mahomes, they might have to trade up further than they are willing. There's a real possibility that AZ takes him. And, Watson could go even higher. Kizer might be the only one left at 27 and rumor is that Pitt loves him and might trade up.

I would rather take an ILB or corner at 27 and take a flyer on Peterman in the 2nd or 3rd.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:28 PM

If they want Mahomes, they might have to trade up further than they are willing. There's a real possibility that AZ takes him. And, Watson could go even higher. Kizer might be the only one left at 27 and rumor is that Pitt loves him and might trade up.

I would rather take an ILB or corner at 27 and take a flyer on Peterman in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:28 PM

If they want Mahomes, they might have to trade up further than they are willing. There's a real possibility that AZ takes him. And, Watson could go even higher. Kizer might be the only one left at 27 and rumor is that Pitt loves him and might trade up.

I would rather take an ILB or corner at 27 and take a flyer on Peterman in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

 

if QB's start flying off the draft board, i don't think Peterman will last to the 3rd round



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:36 PM

if QB's start flying off the draft board, i don't think Peterman will last to the 3rd round

Why would Peterman go earlier?  No place that I've seen has him rated that high.......except SEMO.   :)



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:43 PM

Why would Peterman go earlier? No place that I've seen has him rated that high.......except SEMO. :)


I have never had him mocked higher than our 3rd round comp pick. But, if someone misses out on a QB in the first, I could see them reaching for him in the second. QBs are always overvalued.
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 08:07 PM

I have never had him mocked higher than our 3rd round comp pick. But, if someone misses out on a QB in the first, I could see them reaching for him in the second. QBs are always overvalued.

 

Bingo!



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 08:55 PM

I have never had him mocked higher than our 3rd round comp pick. But, if someone misses out on a QB in the first, I could see them reaching for him in the second. QBs are always overvalued.

The operative word being "reaching".



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 10:10 PM

if QB's start flying off the draft board, i don't think Peterman will last to the 3rd round


I have a feeling now that he'll go somewhere in the top half of the 3rd round.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 10:52 PM

I think one of our mid-round picks will go to the Jets for Sheldon Richardson.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:15 PM

You certainly covered the team's top five needs in the first five rounds.  There's a real possibility that the Chiefs can get their QB without trading up.  They may be poised to pull the trigger on a trade but as the draft works through the first round, they could see either Mahomes or Watson fall to #27 and sit pat.  Would you prefer trading away a third to get Mahomes over Watson?  Guess that's what scouts and talent evaluators are paid for.

 

I'd be willing to give up next year's first and this year's 3rd to get up to 12 to get Mahomes. I'm honestly that high on the kid. I think he's going to be really good. Reminds me so much of Aaron Rodgers, it's eerie. I know most don't see him in that light, but that's okay. You watch a video of Rodgers, then watch Mahomes, even just his highlights, and they look so much alike. Mahomes, if he gets good coaching, he's going to be a special player.

 

 



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:57 PM

I think Peterman goes in the 2nd.

I wouldn't mind a trade up if they get the qb they want.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:57 PM

I think one of our mid-round picks will go to the Jets for Sheldon Richardson.


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 01:04 AM

I think one of our mid-round picks will go to the Jets for Sheldon Richardson.


No chance. They can't absorb his cap hit.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 01:46 AM

I'd be willing to give up next year's first and this year's 3rd to get up to 12 to get Mahomes. I'm honestly that high on the kid. I think he's going to be really good. Reminds me so much of Aaron Rodgers, it's eerie. I know most don't see him in that light, but that's okay. You watch a video of Rodgers, then watch Mahomes, even just his highlights, and they look so much alike. Mahomes, if he gets good coaching, he's going to be a special player.

 

 

Are you suggesting that Mahomes could go as high as #12?  That is higher than nearly any "expert" has him.  I don't see the Chiefs making a trade that expensive unless Trubinsky and Watson are already gone and the Chiefs think Mahomes is definitely their guy.  I want Mahomes, but he's a risk taker and needs work to be good in the NFL.  I just think the Chiefs can get him a lot cheaper than a first and a third.



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 02:09 AM

Are you suggesting that Mahomes could go as high as #12? That is higher than nearly any "expert" has him. I don't see the Chiefs making a trade that expensive unless Trubinsky and Watson are already gone and the Chiefs think Mahomes is definitely their guy. I want Mahomes, but he's a risk taker and needs work to be good in the NFL. I just think the Chiefs can get him a lot cheaper than a first and a third.


Dorsey would never do that anyway. But, I don't think Mahomes gets past AZ, and they could possibly trade up with NO to get ahead of Cleveland to get him. I also don't think Trubisky is as high on everyone's boards as the "experts" think he is. I predict Watson will be the first QB drafted by either the J-E-T-S or Buffalo.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:19 AM

Are you suggesting that Mahomes could go as high as #12?  That is higher than nearly any "expert" has him.  I don't see the Chiefs making a trade that expensive unless Trubinsky and Watson are already gone and the Chiefs think Mahomes is definitely their guy.  I want Mahomes, but he's a risk taker and needs work to be good in the NFL.  I just think the Chiefs can get him a lot cheaper than a first and a third.

 

While I think Arizona is going to move up for Watson, there is a legit chance they could take Mahomes at 13. If that's the case, and they've done their homework on these guys, then I'd make the move to 12 to get ahead of them yes. 



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:24 PM

What would a move from 27 to 12 cost? I really don't think any of these guys are worth giving up 3 picks for if that is the cost.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:19 PM

Dorsey & Reid are not moving from 27 to 12, goes against everything they have done in past years, they might move up to get in front of the texans for whatever QB is there (if they are worth moving up for) if not then i will not be shocked if we end up with someone like Davis Webb or Peterman






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