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The Raiders Have Officially Overpaid Derek Carr

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#1 PhataLerror

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 03:00 PM

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#2 DieHard

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:05 PM

Good. They have been pretty hard to compete with having Coooer, Mack and Carr making pennies. Things will be a little harder now. They are still in a pretty nice place for a couple more years.
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:15 PM

Good, he's 1-4 vs. KC and the 1 win was a fluke.



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:34 PM

That is not overpaid. If anything, good franchise qb's are underpaid. Compare that to MLB or NBA salaries, or even to franchise numbers for other NFL positions. And then consider that finding a great qb is probably the hardest thing to do in all of sports.
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:35 PM

Good, he's 1-4 vs. KC and the 1 win was a fluke.


Yep.

#6 DefensiveMan

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:51 PM

Good for him. He's a good player.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 07:50 PM

Eh

Once the next round of QB deals are filed, this will be an avg contract.

People lost their shit when Brees got 20.

#8 PhataLerror

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:50 PM

Eh

Once the next round of QB deals are filed, this will be an avg contract.

People lost their *** when Brees got 20.

And what have the Saints not lost since Brees got $20 million a year? Since signing his 2011 contract, Brees is 2-3 in the post-season, and hasn't gotten past the Divisional Playoff since. Maybe it's because he was overpaid.



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Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:18 AM

And what have the Saints not lost since Brees got $20 million a year? Since signing his 2011 contract, Brees is 2-3 in the post-season, and hasn't gotten past the Divisional Playoff since. Maybe it's because he was overpaid.


Or maybe because Micky Loomis is an overrated GM and still has control because the owner is teetering on the edge of being a vegetable.

#10 Chiefsfan1963

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:53 AM

I love the deal most of these 100 mill players don't pan out. Carr is good but he is not the best QB in the NFL AND doesn't deserve the money he got in my mind. What has he won to deserve those dollars. Again paying a player for potential vs production.

Edited - he's 7-10 vs the AFC West with 0 playoff games and now he's the highest paid in the league. This will turn out to hurt the Raiders which makes me very happy.
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#11 Handswarmer

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:44 PM

I love the deal most of these 100 mill players don't pan out. Carr is good but he is not the best QB in the NFL AND doesn't deserve the money he got in my mind. What has he won to deserve those dollars. Again paying a player for potential vs production.

Edited - he's 7-10 vs the AFC West with 0 playoff games and now he's the highest paid in the league. This will turn out to hurt the Raiders which makes me very happy.

You just described Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan, Newton Winston....et al



#12 PhataLerror

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:15 PM

You just described Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan, Newton Winston....et al

Cam Newton doesn't deserve to have his name in the same sentence as Matt Stafford or Matt Ryan. The latter two are quarterbacks, not athletes who can throw the ball like a pitcher. Cam Newton is a better football player than Colin Kaepernick, but he's still no pocket quarterback. It's glaringly obvious on tape.



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:58 AM

You just described Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan, Newton Winston....et al

Ryan and Newton have been to SBs, Stafford has been putting up good numbers for years, Winston doesn't deserve that kind of money either.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:09 AM

As much as I loathe the Faiders it's hard to say they overpaid for Carr...  He was going to be the NFL MVP last season before he was injured, the sky is the limit for that offense with him improving as a QB.



#15 PhataLerror

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:46 PM

As much as I loathe the Faiders it's hard to say they overpaid for Carr...  He was going to be the NFL MVP last season before he was injured, the sky is the limit for that offense with him improving as a QB.

Derek Carr was not the best quarterback in the league, and yet he really might have won the MVP award. It just goes to show how often the people voting for MVP don't even know what the criteria for Most Valuable Player are.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:14 PM

It could be argued that no one is more valuable to their team than Carr is, hence his consideration for the award.


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#17 Chiefsfan1963

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:35 PM

It could be argued that no one is more valuable to their team than Carr is, hence his consideration for the award.

I could argue that Mack is just as valuable.

#18 Handswarmer

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 05:16 PM

Ryan and Newton have been to SBs and lost huge

 

, Stafford has been putting up good numbers for years, thats all he does, put up numbers- but here is one for ya 0-4; playoff record

 

Winston doesn't deserve that kind of money either. Punk- should have never been drafted



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Posted 30 June 2017 - 01:23 AM

I could argue that Mack is just as valuable.


That would be a terrible argument.
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#20 Handswarmer

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 07:18 PM

That would be a terrible argument.

Well played sir.....






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