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Las Vegas Shooting: 50 Killed and 406 Hurt Near Mandalay Bay


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#1 BroncoStud

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:17 PM

Las Vegas Shooting: 50 Killed and 406 Hurt Near Mandalay Bay

A gunman fired a barrage of bullets on an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas Sunday night, killing at least 50 people and injuring more than 400 others, police said, in the worst mass shooting in modern American history.

From his room on the 32nd floor of a glitzy hotel, the shooter, identified by law enforcement officials as Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nevada, fired shot after shot down on the crowd of more than 22,000, sending terrified concertgoers running for their lives.

 

“We heard what sounded like firecrackers going off. Then all of a sudden we heard what sounded like a machine gun. People started screaming that they were hit… When we started running out there were probably a couple hundred [people] on the ground,” witness Meghan Kearney told MSNBC.

 

Officials said it was unclear when Paddock checked into the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, and whether he had specifically requested a room on a high floor that overlooked the concert venue.

 

Police responded to reports of the shooting just after 10 p.m. (1 a.m. ET), and fatally shot the suspect in the hotel, officials said.

 

The shooting is not believed to be connected to international terrorism.

 

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https://www.nbcnews....ay-bay-n806461/



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:24 PM

Little is known about the shooter, his brother gave an interview to the DailyMail, which didn't help create a motive, and said this:

 

 

The brother of the Las Vegas shooter said that he was a normal guy who must have ‘snapped’ before carrying out the worst mass shooting in American history.

 

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Eric Paddock said that ‘something happened’ to make his brother Stephen kill at least 50 people and injure 200.

 

Eric said that there was ‘absolutely no indication he could do something like this’ and said that Stephen had no political or religious affiliation.

 

He said: ‘He was just a guy. Something happened, he snapped or something’.

 

Speaking from his home in Orlando, Florida, Eric said: ‘We know absolutely nothing, this is just, we are dumbfounded.



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

I think more happened "Just snapped" my brother in KC doesnt know much about me and would of said the same thing so having a brother n Florida is of real no help..Computer searches will tell a lot. A real tragedy too.

 

 now the flood gates will open with the Anti's again..Nevada has pretty strict gun laws  ..I THINK..but it is Harry Reid's country but he has been pretty good about "gun control" Legislation.. that'll go by the wayside now

 

 All we'll hear now is "Assault Rifle" Ban  or "Gun Violence"  but we all know its Trump's fault



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

Probably another butt hurt liberal, like the one that shot Scalise. It was a coutry music show. Plenty of racist nazis in the crowd, I’m sure.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:48 PM

Probably another butt hurt liberal, like the one that shot Scalise. It was a coutry music show. Plenty of racist nazis in the crowd, I’m sure.

My initial reaction as well, but that's just lazy stereotyping on our parts.

 

Have you heard the audio?

 

Sounds like a m249 to me. Definately sounds belt-fed. I wonder what kind of weapon(s) was/were used. Just curiosity on my part, not as a means to create a scapegoat. 



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

Horrible...

So sorry to hear about this.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:21 PM

My initial reaction as well, but that's just lazy stereotyping on our parts.

 

Have you heard the audio?

 

Sounds like a m249 to me. Definately sounds belt-fed. I wonder what kind of weapon(s) was/were used. Just curiosity on my part, not as a means to create a scapegoat. 

 

 

sure sounded that way to me..just heard the audio



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:24 PM

I listened as well. Sure sounds like a M249 to me as well.

What is wrong with people?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:31 PM

sure would like to know how he got his hands on such a weapon..had to be pricey and  had to have a FFL  himself or a contact



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:38 PM

It could have been a semi automatic that was illegally modified. I have stayed at Mandalay Bey several times. The Windows don't open so he had to punch out the glass.

It is a horrible horrible thing.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:44 PM

It could have been a semi automatic that was illegally modified. I have stayed at Mandalay Bey several times. The Windows don't open so he had to punch out the glass.

It is a horrible horrible thing.

 

 

 that was my first thought when I heard  Fully Automatic but listen to the audio..no 30 round clip last that long.

 I am sure we will find out shortly but be sure to tune into to  Cnn/ MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC for your full dose of anti  gun rhetoric

 

 I'l be interested in the facts after they have all been gathered right Wilkie?



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:45 PM

 that was my first thought when I heard  Fully Automatic but listen to the audio..no 30 round clip last that long.

 I am sure we will find out shortly but be sure to tune into to  Cnn/ MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC for your full dose of anti  gun rhetoric

 

 I'l be interested in the facts after they have all been gathered right Wilkie?

 

 but its is  a serious tragedy 



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:03 PM

Nevada is very liberal with their firearms. They pretty much allow anything, as long as you are a Nevada resident. Can't remember their laws on machineguns. I do believe they are legal though. I keep hearing that the guns were expensive and that he had a lit of them but I have yet to see what they were.

Yes this will make the anti gun nuts come out of the woodwork and go om their ban, ban, ban tirades. No law in the world will keep a crazy person from killing people if they want.

You will also get some pro-gun folks talking about if everyone was armed narrative. I doubt seriously an armed person in the area could have shot the shooter out of his 30 something floor with a handgun. Someone in the hotel walking past the exact room maybe, but then he would probably be prosecuted for violating some law even though they may have saved lives.

Sad thing.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:16 PM

Nevada is very liberal with their firearms. They pretty much allow anything, as long as you are a Nevada resident. Can't remember their laws on machineguns. I do believe they are legal though. I

 

Man I thought Mo laws were "liberal" but letting a resident have a class 3 firearm just cuz. I'm mean I'm not that Libertarian!! LOL..No wonder Reid gets a B rating ( last I checked) from the NRA



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:36 PM

They allow aperson to have any machine guns manufactured prior to 1986 as long as they are registered. Same as the federal law.

If you have the money you can get anything, ask the inner city thugs.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:43 PM

Nevada is very liberal with their firearms. They pretty much allow anything, as long as you are a Nevada resident. Can't remember their laws on machineguns. I do believe they are legal though. I keep hearing that the guns were expensive and that he had a lit of them but I have yet to see what they were.

Yes this will make the anti gun nuts come out of the woodwork and go om their ban, ban, ban tirades. No law in the world will keep a crazy person from killing people if they want.

You will also get some pro-gun folks talking about if everyone was armed narrative. I doubt seriously an armed person in the area could have shot the shooter out of his 30 something floor with a handgun. Someone in the hotel walking past the exact room maybe, but then he would probably be prosecuted for violating some law even though they may have saved lives.

Sad thing.

I'm staunchly against gun control, but other people being armed would have done zero in this case.  This nut job was essentially a sniper, posted up at an elevated position.  Concert attendees carrying pistols can't shoot what they can't see.  

 

It's a tragedy, but I've already heard a lot from other places about people blaming the gun.  Odds are the gun was either illegally modified or illegal to begin with.  On top of that, I stand by the position that guns don't fire themselves.  Someone on a suicide mission, like this guy clearly was, are capable of killing with or without firearms.  He could have fabricated a low tech bomb from common items.  I guess what I'm saying is, the blaming of the guns alleviates personal responsibility.  It's always the fault of the person behind the tool, and I feel that blaming the tool is pure political laziness that doesn't address the problem.  The problem is, 7.5 billion people on the planet, some of them are crazy.  Mourn the victims and their families, and point the finger at the man behind the act. 


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:45 PM

It didn't take long for the "irrelevant" Cankles to jump in and start spouting off. She's crying about silencers and how much worse it would have been if he had one. Her attack against the NRAs stance on silencers.

If course Dana Loesch set her straight but I'm sure it will be ignored.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:47 PM

I'm staunchly against gun control, but other people being armed would have done zero in this case. This nut job was essentially a sniper, posted up at an elevated position. Concert attendees carrying pistols can't shoot what they can't see.

It's a tragedy, but I've already heard a lot from other places about people blaming the gun. Odds are the gun was either illegally modified or illegal to begin with. On top of that, I stand by the position that guns don't fire themselves. Someone on a suicide mission, like this guy clearly was, are capable of killing with or without firearms. He could have fabricated a low tech bomb from common items. I guess what I'm saying is, the blaming of the guns alleviates personal responsibility. It's always the fault of the person behind the tool, and I feel that blaming the tool is pure political laziness that doesn't address the problem. The problem is, 7.5 billion people on the planet, some of them are crazy. Mourn the victims and their families, and point the finger at the man behind the act.

You are in the majority here which is a good thing. I've never seen any of my firearms or any firearms for that matter fire themselves.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:54 PM

They allow aperson to have any machine guns manufactured prior to 1986 as long as they are registered. Same as the federal law.

If you have the money you can get anything, ask the inner city thugs.

 

 are you telling me that Federal law allows me without a Class 3 lisc to own any fully auto weapon as long as it was made before 1986?..

 

 I believe if you got the money you can buy whatever you want thats a no brainer I dont need to crawl from under my Rock for that



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:56 PM

You are in the majority here which is a good thing. I've never seen any of my firearms or any firearms for that matter fire themselves.

The problem is, many of the anti gun activists have absolutely no understanding of them.  They fear what they don't understand.  While I advocate for gun ownership, I'm not much of a gun owner.  I still have my 12 gauge that I like to shoot trap with, but I'm not a hunter, and I sold my pistols I had during the Obama administration because the ammo run and whatnot, I wasn't going to pay the prices to just go out and target shoot.  Anyhow, they have this liberal mindset of "guns bad", "climate change" etc.  It's a reflection of what's been drilled into their heads, and not actual reality.  As I said, it's willful ignorance and simply fearing what they don't understand.  Of course they've largely been indoctrinated into believing that the government should be bigger and that it knows what's best for each and every individual.  






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