Notion we shouldn't examine what works and what doesn't around the world is makes no sense. We've got ridiculously expensive health care, rampant violent citizen vs citizen gun crime, a declining education system, ect, ect. We don't do it better than anyone else and need to examine everything we do and how we can do it better. A conversation that currently doesn't exist because both major parties are so dug in to their own special interest. Talk about the inhibition of liberty when we can't even legitimately look at all alternative options. And that certainly includes how we apply the second amendment. It's not a catch all that allows people to arm themselves however they want.
Not sure we haven't examined it M.
The reason these socialist utopias have been able to afford social medicine is more complicated than what meets the eye.
Everyone looks to Denmark and Scandinavia as pillars of compassion that we should emulate. The truth is, there are many reasons Europe has been able to temporarily afford these social programs, but there are two very obvious ones:
1. Most of these countries have no defense budget. Why? Because the hardworking US taxpayer, and the brave US soldier, have been defending them for the last 75 years. Denmark has a defense budget smaller than Angola.
2. Most of these Scandinavian countries have the average size and population not much bigger than the state of Maryland. The sheer scale of the US in population and size makes it an inappropriate comparison.
When you look at the USSR (US-sized nation) they made it less than 80 years before they collapsed into the financial abyss. And that was after they killed tens of millions of their own citizens. The other comparable country, China, is on the verge of financial collapse as well. They have virtually no middle class, they've wrecked their environment because they are taking dangerous shortcuts, desperately trying to boost their failing economy. They've finally embraced the free market, sort of, because it's their only hope. But since their statism is unsustainable, their people will never enjoy the fruits of their labor... which as a libertarian, you should know MUST HAPPEN for any economy to thrive.
You have some great points M and as you get to know most of us regulars you'll see that by and large we lean libertarian. Imagine if we could cut our defense budget in half, by pulling out of Afghan, Iraq, Syria, and everywhere else we aren't wanted or needed. Imagine if we could cut social entitlements back by 50% and force people to make the choice of work or poverty? Imagine if we had term limits so lawmakers were not in permanent campaign mode, which would free them up to make difficult decisions that are long overdue. Imagine if we were able to live on a budget, and if our children were not saddled with the burden of 137 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
If we could fix those problems by kicking out the socialists, and if we could introduce the free market into healthcare like it was before medicare was introduced, the entire healthcare debate would be a non-issue.